this guy is a key player in the obama administration. you know, there's lots of taj about coming back to wall street. he likes it down there, and he likes working there, and that he wants a higher position, and, you know -- >> down in wall street or washington? >> washington. washington's south; right? >> of here. >> wall street's south of here too. >> but down, down there. the meetings are about keeping people, i think, in line. we should point out that larry fink is on the treasury secretary short list. you know, i think this is jack lew's to lose, so to speak. that's what people say on wall street. if he's well in the budget negotiations, meaning, you know, basically, jamming most of the president's proposals down the republicans' throat, looks like he gets the job. that's where we are now. it's interesting watching wall street kiss up to the president on this. >> it is interesting. >> there is nobody, no economic perp i talked to who really thinks that this is the time to raise marginal taxes, even on the rich, the alleged rich, whic